@Sleprithslayer said in #23:
> He didn't "take on the soviet union." That's dumb. Get a grip with reality there Mr. Brainwashed Boomer.
> He was playing chess, not fighting wars. He was the greatest of his generation, and he was rated 100 points higher than Spassky, the second highest rated player, which in and of itself is extaordinary. But to claim he was the greatest: that's like trying to claim the 1960's celtics could beat the 1990's lakers. Sports evolve. Players get better because they learn from past mistakes. It's human nature. If we didn't learn, we'd perish. Of course, Carlsen is greater.
> The only way that Fischer could beat Carlsen, and it's been mentioned a number of times in this thread and other threads, is if you could somehow transport Fischer to 2024, and give him all the available computer tools, including a year of training to understand modern theory, and a second year of training to go through all of Carlsen's games, understand his habits, his inclinations.
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> And even that might not be enough.
LMAO... as a Boomer, I'll try not to let my age and experience take advantage of your inexperience adolescent mind and nature.
I'll go easy on you little man .. For clarification: I'm comparing career and impact on Chess as a whole ...
Before Fisher, Chess in the West was a geeky nerd game! After it was in every high school and people were getting their varsity letters playing chess. Has Carlsen ever went on the most popular late night talk show in America? At that time .... Fisher did! Fisher was even invited to the Whitehouse by President Nixon.
Seeng the difference yet?
You must think somehow the brain has evolved since the 1970s LMAO! that notion leaves me with a smirk. Or. you take the inflated ELO's seriously ... OMG took me to Shite eating grin!
Did Carlsen dominate any of his peers in any match like Fisher i.e. 6-0?
Ahhh... What was that? Feigning my hand to ear... did I hear a NO? What? I can't hear you?
NO.... he did not.
You need to read up on Fisher and how paranoid he was, and how he worked with little or no assistance (Unlike Carlsen ... being a modern GM who employees a staff for opening prep. )
Fisher himself is on record stating believing that the Soviets on a whole, during several tournaments leading up to the Candidates match, sand bagged or lost games just to see what he would play.
Finally, Your youth shows ignorance (as anyone who would think everything their generation does or is going through is somehow different or better than what came before)
example: People used to say the same about professional Baseball players . They believed pitcher before the 1970s (before they became specialized i.e. closers and relievers etc ) could not hang in the modern game ... Then the Japanese pitchers started coming over, pitching the same game as guys before the 1970s ( i.e. control instead of power... ) And now they are the pitchers most sought after and in high demand. (they can pitch a whole game ... just like the pitcher of yore... )
Or... Boxers.. who thinks Tyson Fury could hand with Muhammad Ali, George Forman, or Joe Fraser? or Hollyfield or Lewis and Tyson?
How about Hockey? i,e, Wayne Gretskey and Bobby Oar.
Sometime someone comes along that is a 1 in a millennium.
If you believe Magnus is the Goat rock on... ... for people that have been around the block, well that's a hard sell... In match play, he's not stood out among his WC peers. & For a 100 yrs classical match play has been that measuring yard stick that we use.
